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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394030">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="2907">@T-release</span> meeting!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394049">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>o/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394189" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394189">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:30)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> triage check in!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394237">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>nothing much from my side, as said last week the triage team will be on a break from Monday till 10th January</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394324" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394324">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394418">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have a release in 2 weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394489">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are a number of concerning regressions, but I am hopeful that some of them can be resolved. it is unclear how much that can happen in time for the release though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394518" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394518">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and we unfortunately cannot really back out work)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394575" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394575">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/milestone/76">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/milestone/76</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394599">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does that need a call for help?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394622" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394622">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>they are all in trait-related code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394625">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>most of these would be hard to help with I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394685">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>well, the ones that worry me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394692" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394692">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>(except <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/79911">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/79911</a>, which we decided was wontfix)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394737">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>and to my knowledge there's like 2 people who can maybe do those fixes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394754">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>and Niko is on holidays from end of today :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394767" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394767">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am not sure whether we will have fixes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394787">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it is unclear that the scope of the breakage is that bad</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394818" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394818">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's probably 5-7 crates being broken at the root</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220394928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220394928">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am curious to hear what people think - it seems like delaying or missing the release is maybe too harsh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395019" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395019">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>so, this is making me worry more and more the more I think about it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395095">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are some fixes incoming, but with folks on hiatus I also don't know how much testing they'll get</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395119">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>because this <em>is</em> going to be a big release, and it's probably going to be marketed a lot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395122" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395122">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't have a sense of those bugs yet, but I'd rather not delay unless it were a widespread failure.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395131">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>with arm being tier 1</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395167">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>so I fear we'll have a ton of publicity around this release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395265" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395265">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>and what could happen if the release breaks people</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395400" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395400">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah I don't really know myself how to evaluate tradeoff here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395508" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395508">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>it is possible we will need to re-evaluate in a week or so</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395540" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395540">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>(to see how much is fixed by then)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395608" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395608">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Are we even meeting next week?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395631">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is the next question I guess :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395639" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395639">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>gah next week it's the 25th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395672" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> cuviper <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395672">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Could move earlier in the week though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395681" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395681">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can also try for, e.g., the 23rd or something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395732" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395732">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>(question: what will happen when a release falls on 25.12?)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395767" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> rylev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395767">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>(we may want to start planning around inconvenient releases)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395789" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395789">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>The current one is on the 31st, fwiw</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395803" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395803">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think it is unclear</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395889">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know we can release on such a day. What is less clear is whether we can fix regressions during holidays.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395960" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395960">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="224872">Ryan Levick</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018/near/220395732">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>(question: what will happen when a release falls on 25.12?)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>releasing itself is pretty painless, just an hour of mostly waiting and running a couple commands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220395964" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220395964">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess it is unlikely we're going to arrive at any conclusions in this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396014" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396014">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yeah, as mark said the problem is the preparation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396169" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396169">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know what the right next step is - I think that I am unwilling to miss the release right now though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396188" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396188">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(or delay or anything)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396256" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396256">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am going to try to get a summary of the regression's scope by end of day today, and the extent to which we expect fixes to occur</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396284">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>that'd be really helpful to make a call <span aria-label="heart" class="emoji emoji-2764" role="img" title="heart">:heart:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396336" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396336">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I wish I had time before this meeting, but I've been in meetings all week it feels like :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396474">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>and for the time being I'm going to cancel the meetings on the 25th and 1st - I may ping folks over Zulip around those dates though, and it would be useful if folks could PM me a vague availability expectation</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396582" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396582">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok - if anyone is opposed, say so now, but <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-topic for now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396586">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to add on the current topic?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if not.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396685">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(We will make the call on releasing over the next week most likely, and document that on Zulip at least)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396701">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>but the default is going to be a release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396715" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396715">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok - I think there is nothing else from me on agenda</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396737">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="261224">@triagebot</span> end-meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> triagebot <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396739">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Does anyone have something to bring up?<br>
React with <span aria-label="working on it" class="emoji emoji-1f6e0" role="img" title="working on it">:working_on_it:</span> if you have something to say.<br>
React with <span aria-label="all good" class="emoji emoji-2705" role="img" title="all good">:all_good:</span> if you're ready to end the meeting.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396845" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396845">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120823">@DPC</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396924">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok let's call it here. I will ping release later today with that summary.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting%202020%2012%2018/near/220396929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/241545-t-release/topic/meeting.202020.2012.2018.html#220396929">(Dec 18 2020 at 16:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Assuming we are not meeting again before the end of the year - Merry Christmas to those who celebrate and have a relaxing vacation /time-off <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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